Can you feel it? The undertone of something on the precipice. The uneasiness sweltering to a boiling point. I’m not just talking about the suspense leading to “Euphoria’s” long-awaited third season, but the oppression growing throughout Western society that is reducing our emotional threshold. “Euphoria” star and Charli xcx-approved IT girl, Chloe Cherry believes we are battling with a modern empathy void. Ours is the most connected society to exist, but somehow despair and apathy parallel play in the cultural zeitgeist.
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Long before algorithms, celebrities and screens, humans were searching for something to believe in. Nurture and communion were the pillars of ancient worship. We did not wish to escape reality, but to connect with it more deeply. As of late, we have swapped altars for iPhones and communities with consumption. The predominant religion in Western culture is capitalism. The saints are billionaires who hold the almighty power of control, greed and wrath. Daily sermons are led by tech bros, and we donate our time and attention for their communion. They have given us unprecedented access to seemingly the whole world in the palms of our hands, guiding us to seek the divine outwards to avoid looking inwards. My belief is that every one of us is spiritual and every day we do acts of worship for our spirituality. But the question is, what are we each worshipping? For Cherry, spirituality is practised in rest, creativity and decentring men; portraying worship as a form of self-devotion rooted in rituals that support her internal wellbeing, rather than external validation.
As an actor, Chloe plays the bewildering Faye in “Euphoria”. Catching up with the same gang of troubled teens, now five years older, Faye returns to our screens in the divisive HBO series on April 12th. Despite the hit show facing controversy for its provocative portrayal of substance abuse, graphic violence and explicit sexuality, Cherry sees beyond the mayhem to the human parts of these characters. After all, the show is a mirror to the palpable darkness that exists in echo chambers around us in a tyrannical world. The star is also set to appear as Lola in “Find Your Friends”, exclusive to Shudder on June 12th, the debut feature thriller of writer and director Izabel Pakzad that follows the descent of a girls’ trip into a game of survival, provoking viewers to rethink the cliché of the final girl horror trope.
From manifestation to method acting, I spoke with Cherry to explore the intersections between fiction and reality. Letting go of fairy tales, she reflects on the propaganda of romance, building a life centred on personal autonomy and growth, and her faith in humanity. She defends “Euphoria” as a cautionary portrayal of addiction rather than a glamorisation, critiquing societal judgment around addiction and gender roles, as well as calling for greater empathy.

What do you worship?
I feel like I worship myself in a way. I’ve got really into studying things like skincare, exercise, and health in general. The best foods to eat and the best vitamins to take. I love exercising, then taking a really nice shower, using just so many products and feeling really clean and taken care of. It makes me feel amazing to take care of myself. I also really worship the people that I work with, whether it be through the show “Euphoria” or my agency, Gersh. I feel very grateful to be doing the line of work that I am. And I really, really, really admire all the people I work with.
Do you have any specific nighttime or morning rituals?
Every single night, I always take a shower and then do a million things to my skin. I’ll do different things each night. I like to lay down flat and let things soak into my skin, or just relax in some way and then go to sleep. It actually helps me sleep well, to have that wind-down ritual. I just love using all my little products, and doing all my things. They make me feel good about myself.
Do you enjoy the sensory element of it? There’s something so nurturing about touching your skin and getting really personal with yourself. It’s a very ritualistic act.
Totally, yes. It’s so funny because it’s so hard to get me to come out and go to a party at night, because of the fact that I genuinely would so much rather take a really nice shower at 7pm, and then just spend time doing a hair mask, and then combing through my hair. For me, I’m not even trying to make my skin look nice so that other people find me attractive, it’s just so that I feel good about myself. I look in the mirror, okay, I feel like I look good. I look healthy.
I want to dive into your journey with spirituality. Are you spiritual?
If I’m going to be completely honest, my journey with spirituality is that I was born to parents that were atheists. My first introduction to religion was my parents telling me that religion just existed to control people. I’m not even kidding. I remember my mum used to always say this thing where she was like, “The thing that I hate about religion is that it causes war, and people are constantly going to literal war over religion. I hate war.” And so that was my first introduction to spirituality. I basically was just somebody who didn’t have a religion by any means. I wasn’t necessarily that spiritual. But I guess it’s kind of complicated, because of the fact that my father died when I was eight, and I was very, very, very close with him as a kid. Once he died, I remember finding some peace in thinking of him as being in heaven. So, there is some part of me that does really want to believe that after we die, we go somewhere better. I don’t know how to label any of these beliefs or feelings that I might have, that there could be a higher power.
So perfect_angelgirl does believe in angels?
Oh my god, yeah. But it’s this funny thing where the reason that I am obsessed with angels is because of the fact that I grew up in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, and my grandparents were religious. They were the type of people that always had angels and religious imagery. Churches have such beautiful architecture and that religious iconography is so beautiful. I’ve always just been enticed by it.
Where you grew up, in rural Pennsylvania, is known to be deeply conservative with many religious establishments. What was it like growing up non-religious in that environment?
I remember that was something that made me really weird growing up — that I wasn’t religious. When I was a kid, everybody went to this thing that was called Youth Group, which was where all the kids got together and talked about God or something, I don’t know. That was the cool thing that everybody was doing. I think about how you can’t really train to be an Olympian after a certain age. I don’t think that you can really, truly believe a religion in its full force, if it’s not introduced to you until you’re an adult, if that makes any sense.
Yeah, because you’re not indoctrinated into it, you’re forming your own opinions about it.
Yeah. It’s basically impossible to fully indoctrinate an adult into a religion the same way that you could if you just raised a child their whole life in a religion.
“I’ve learned that absolutely no one has a perfect life, even if it seems like it on the surface.”
I fully agree. Is there anything that you used to put on a pedestal that now you think differently of?
Having a boyfriend, but specifically having a boyfriend that’s really, really proud to be your boyfriend, and screaming from the rooftops that he loves you and that you know you’re his girlfriend. He’s obsessed with you. For so much of my life I was like, why haven’t I found that? Why haven’t I found somebody who just loves me at first sight, and we have this amazing romance? I used to think that somebody falling in love with me easily was a good thing, and that meant that I was a desirable person. But from a relationship experience that I had, I realised that just because a guy is obsessed with you, doesn’t mean that he’s a good boyfriend. It can actually mean that he’s a terrible fucking boyfriend. And having a partner doesn’t ever necessarily make your life better. The way that I now think about dating is that it is so much worse for any person to be dating the wrong person than to be single. It’ll always be way more sad to me for somebody to be dating someone that they’re unhappy with, versus them being single at any age.
Ugh, yes. Do you know what limerence is?
I feel like I’ve seen it online, but I guess my understanding of it is that it’s almost like when you think you’re in love, but you’re not.
It’s more complex than that, but in summary it’s when you’re obsessed with the fantasy of what someone could be, rather than the reality of who they are. It’s an intense attachment of the desire to be desired. It’s something that I’ve personally struggled with because I’m neurodivergent, and I didn’t really understand the social cues of dating for a really long time.
Yes, literally, I feel the same way actually.
It can feel isolating. I’m a lesbian, and also have ADHD and autism, but there’s literally no representation or guidebook for navigating that. From childhood we were getting indoctrinated into this mass cult idea that women should be princesses that need to be saved by princes in this all-encompassing love. That love should be this whirlwind dramatic experience. That’s the precedent that’s been set for most of us, and when you expect that to be your life and it doesn’t happen, you feel like something is wrong with you.
Yeah, exactly. If you think about Disney movies that were so famous for children’s entertainment, they were all about love and finding love. And that was always the way that the story ended up, they were happy because somebody found love. There was a time where I felt like other people would see me as a desirable, cool person, because somebody else was into me. I definitely know I have ADHD, but I don’t know how to explain this, I feel like I almost just don’t even know what flirting is. I’ve had this experience when it comes to dating straight men, where they think too much about who or what a person is. They could be talking to a girl for any reason, and they’ll always just be thinking about the fact that they’re like, talking to a girl, and it’s things like that which just don’t make any sense to me.
It’s like they’re still objectifying women?
Totally. Right now, I’ve completely taken off a pedestal having a boyfriend because I’m just kind of realising the way that some straight cis guys still think. The last boyfriend I had, he could be so controlling. By the end of it, I kept thinking this cannot be the rest of my life. Since we broke up, I would never sign up for a dating app. I wouldn’t even consider it for a second. I’m not ever going to be searching for someone ever again in any way, just because, holy shit, it can actually ruin your life to be in the wrong relationship.
I feel that. In your interview on the Unbothered Podcast, you said that you were actually an extra in “Euphoria” series one before getting cast in series two, and now you’re a main character in series three. Do you believe in manifestation, and do you think that you manifested the role?
I try to not believe in manifestation, sometimes manifestation can be frustrating if you have anxiety, because then you’re afraid that you’re manifesting the things you’re anxious about. That’s something that I don’t like about manifestation. But at the same time, I also kind of feel like I did. I remember that day that I was shooting that little clip for “Euphoria” season one as an extra. I had so many high hopes for myself.
What specific scene were you in?
There’s a scene where Kat is watching porn and she clicks on a video that says something like “School Girls Tie Up Some Guy” and so they had cast a bunch of porn stars to shoot this little clip of like five girls in cheerleading costumes tying a guy to a tree, which, by the way, nobody’s ever actually done that in porn, that was just Sam Levinson’s idea.

“Euphoria” returns for series three in April, and it’s a hot topic on people’s lips. You play the unsuspecting, comedy comeback queen Faye. What can we expect from the new season?
Without revealing too much, you can expect a lot. You can expect to be shocked, you can expect to be confused, and you can expect to be worried, and you can expect to then be surprised again, because there’s a lot of crazy stuff. Faye does bad things, but she also does really good things. Something that I do want to share is a weird insight for what it feels like mentally, to be an actor. This season, my character has a boyfriend who she is very in love with and she just worships the ground he walks on. The time when we were filming was also the last time that I had an actual boyfriend in real life. I remember it was actually the most divine timing, because of the fact that I felt like I just knew how to actually look like I had strong feelings for somebody because I was actually experiencing it at the same time. As an actor, anything that happens, good or bad, I always tell myself that I’m just gonna use it in my work. I’m happy with Faye’s storyline. I mean, there are some things that I wish she didn’t do. But for the most part, I’m pretty happy with her storyline. Also just filming it was so fun. The new actors were super fun to work with. Everybody’s nice. Sydney [Sweeney], Alexa [Demie], Jacob [Elordi], like, you name it. Everybody’s cool, everybody’s chill.
And there are new additions, right? Trisha Paytas, Natasha Lyonne, and Priscilla Delgado to name a few.
Dude, that was so funny. I remember I was on set one day, and after the Trisha Paytas news came out, I was like, Sam, how do you even know who that is? You are the last person to be her audience. That’s why I’m obsessed with Sam Levinson. His taste is amazing. It’s so unpredictable, but it’s always so great. I just love how outside of the box he is. I feel like it works because it’s something different. It’s interesting.
Is there anything you have learned from working with such formidable women?
I’ve learned that absolutely no one has a perfect life, even if it seems like it on the surface. The obsessions that people have with these women and judgment towards them show me what society cares about most. The country I live in, the US, is inciting war and people on the internet would still rather talk more about a woman in the public eye doing something they deem as wrong.
“Euphoria” explores heavy, but real subject matter. There’s been some heat on the show with people claiming it romanticises drug use and addiction. Is there anything that you think that people misinterpret about the show?
In my personal opinion, when I watch “Euphoria” myself, it doesn’t make me want to do drugs at all. It makes me actually really, really scared of drugs. In knowing Sam Levinson, I know that he wrote this show as a warning of what could happen if you get into drugs, and just how bad it can get. I think that the only thing that glamorises it is just purely the fact that it’s on TV at all you know, and that’s where sometimes people say we’re lacking media literacy. We’re lacking the fact that something that’s a show is just a story that’s meant to entertain, and these characters are not supposed to be an example for you. Sometimes these characters are bad, bad people, and they’re literally just there to entertain. I’ve been making entertainment for the past eleven years of my life, and I’ll tell you that people don’t watch things where there’s no drama of any kind, where nothing crazy happens, where every single thing is just 100% normal and good and nothing weird happens. They know they don’t want to turn on TV and just watch a show about someone sitting on a couch or something, you know, it has to be crazy. But people need to realise that just because something is on TV or in a movie or in media in any way, does not mean that it’s telling you to then go do those things.
I agree with you. Whenever I’ve watched the show, it doesn’t, in my opinion, glorify it. Especially if you know people who are addicts or have struggled with addiction, you understand the ferocity of it. It’s not something that is romantic or glamorous; it’s gut-wrenching for everyone involved. I think it’s important to mention your dear friend and former “Euphoria” co-star Angus Cloud struggled with his own battles of addiction and drug use, and sadly passed away before series three began filming. It just really reflects how palpable the issues in the show are.
Yeah. Something that I’ve learned through the years is that way more people are struggling with addiction than aren’t struggling with addiction, actually. And there’s a lot of things that people can be addicted to and still be functional. The human experience is just difficult, and that’s why we turn to these things. Oftentimes you find people that were born without privilege don’t have access to the things they need, so their quality of life is lower, they might want to turn to drugs to escape, and that just keeps them in this cycle. Drug addicts are almost everybody, actually. Somebody who seems like this perfect soccer dad that works in corporate is doing cocaine all day long. This woman who is sixty-four years old, still likes to go out at night and do molly and dance all night. There are twenty-three-year-old kids smoking fentanyl and surviving. I’ve met these people, because people will tell me their stories. I really, really, really, hate the hierarchy that people have in thinking that addicts are beneath them when at the end of the day, most of these people are doing these substances just so they themselves can feel better. Sometimes people who believe that everyone just needs to be perfectly sober so that God can hear their wishes or whatever is an addiction. It’s an addiction to being perfect and clean and pure and holier than thou. I guess I just find that there’re so many ways that your life can go. There are so many ways that a brain can work. There are so many things that could be going on in someone’s mind that leads them to doing drugs.
Yeah, and shame feeds the addiction cycle so it’s difficult to navigate supporting people suffering. Your character Faye often offers tension relief through one-liners and comedic timing against a background of darkness. In previous interviews you have credited Angus as someone who helped you home in on your comedy. In what ways did he do this?
Angus was funny as hell. Oh my god, he would just say the most random things ever. I remember we were once talking about how neither of us had a car but lived in LA, and he says, “Fuck a Mitsubishi, Imma ride a horse.” His sense of humour was so perfectly absurd and observant. I can’t imagine how much his family and friends miss him and he will forever be remembered as a great person.
Is there anything you want people to take away from the show?
In my opinion, I especially don’t want anybody to take from the show a glamorisation of drug use or violence. Those are the two things in the show that I don’t think anybody should ever see as a positive thing. I feel like what people should take away is being aware that we all live in a bubble, and there are just so many other situations that people are in, and that we live in a very, very big world that has so many issues in it. Some good things, but a lot of really, really, really, really fucked up things too. I honestly hope that people can almost see all humans, just as humans. None of us ask to be born into what we’re born into, and sometimes we end up being born into a family that doesn’t treat us right, and that leads us to bad situations. You are not better than somebody else just because you stay at home and read The Bible or never had sex in your life. There is no such thing as a perfect person.
“I have faith that, with all the horrible things going on in this world, there are still so many truly good people.”
It’s hard to ignore that we’re a very lonely generation. I find it wild how we can spend so much time on our phones and be connected to so many realities, yet we walk away feeling very disconnected. I think we disassociate and decompress with our phones a lot and rely on them to regulate us, but I wonder at what point it becomes an addiction. There are people who have screen times of like 10+ hours a day. Do you know what your screen time is?
I never check my screen time but it’s probably like 100 hours a day. But I do think that every single human being is addicted to something, even if they’re completely sober, they’re probably addicted to video games, or chocolate, or love. Not even sex, but love.
For a lot of people, faith is a huge healer. Believing in something bigger than yourself can give people a lot of purpose. When you struggle with your own mental health, who or what do you turn to for support?
When I struggle with my mental health, the last thing I want to turn to is a higher power. I genuinely turn to sleep when my mental health is bad. Hygiene and sleep.
Is there anything you have faith in?
I have faith in humanity. I have faith in the future. I have faith that, with all the horrible things going on in this world, there are still so many truly good people, even when it seems like the bad people have all the power.
You’ve mentioned in interviews that growing up, your mother raised you and your brother the same way. What do you think the impact of that had on you?
My mum basically didn’t see why there should be any differences between men and women. She never understood why on earth it is that a guy could say “Oh, man, I hooked up with six different girls this week” and everyone’s gonna go “Yo, bro, that’s so awesome. You’re the fucking dude.” But if a girl says that, it’s like “Oh my god, that’s so bad. Your life is over. You’re ruined, you’re terrible.” How does that make any logical sense? She would just always tell me that didn’t make sense. But it wasn’t even just with sex. It was with everything. She thought if a guy can do it, you can do it too. She didn’t see gender, if that makes any sense. Being a kid in a conservative area in Pennsylvania, you’d see some people’s parents were obsessed with gender being performed in such a specific way. If they were boys, their dads would be like “No, you can’t play with a pink toy.” I felt like we didn’t start to openly, publicly have conversations about that until probably Tumblr days, versus my mum having these conversations in the early 2000s.
Were your parents quite laid back? Did they let you and your brother pursue whatever passions you wanted?
Anything at all, yeah. Even to this day. I’m twenty-eight years old right now, and I don’t have a mother that would ever in a million years say something to me like, “When are you gonna get married? When am I gonna have grandchildren?” She’s never, ever said that. If I chose to never do that, she wouldn’t feel any type of way about it at all. I feel like it was around 2019 when young people were starting to have this conversation about how gender roles really don’t mean anything, and non-binary became more of a well-known thing. I was like oh, wow. I feel like I’ve been living my whole life like this, but now there are finally actual words set to it.
Your aunt was an art teacher and would set up art projects for you and your brother when you were little. Can you tell me about your current art practice? Because you do collages, right?
I’ve made a million collages in my life, and I love them, but I haven’t made one in a while. My process was I would only make them out of things that came to me. I would never make a purchase of what I was going to put in a collage. So, if you look at them, it’s literally random ass objects that I actually find on the street, or magazine cutouts, which I also found on the streets of LA when I go out walking. I don’t know what my next thing is going to be, and I’m trying to figure it out. But I am working on something. I want to try collage sculpture next. I’m serious.
What are you envisioning for that? What would this collage sculpture look like?
What I’m envisioning, and I hope I can pull this off, is collaging actual objects. In my backyard, I literally have a collection of random things that I’m saving to make a big collage project in my yard. I’ll see what happens. I don’t make the physical art itself to last forever, because of the fact that I am gluing a million little things together. They do fall apart over the years. I make art and then photograph it, because the photo can last forever. So, that’s why I was thinking about the sculpture. Because that’s something that I wouldn’t want to even keep together forever.
What’s your most woo woo take?
OMG. So, my window, here. I’ll open it up anytime it’s an angel number. If it’s like 4:44pm or something, I’ll look at the sky. I have this affirmation that I say to myself, that I won’t say because I don’t want to reveal it, because it’s too sacred to me, but I’ll look at the sky and say the affirmation in my mind while I’m breathing in. I believe that I’m breathing in those positive thoughts and then exhaling the negative ones.
We’ve just said goodbye to the Year of the Snake. We’re welcoming in the Year of the Horse. What has the past year taught you about yourself?
It taught me that I really, really, really love acting a lot. I loved acting on “Euphoria”. I did another movie, which I don’t think I can talk about yet, but I love acting more than anything in this world. I also realised that I’m feeling like I don’t want to get married anymore. I don’t romanticise relationships with men right now. That’s something that completely changed about me, the idea of getting married to a man sounds in no way enticing, or having a family with a guy, because that means I’m attached to him for the rest of my life.
It’s your era of decentring men. What are you reinvesting in?
Just myself and my career, honestly. Me creating more things is what I want to invest in. Creating is what I want to focus on.
Of the seven sins, which is your favourite? Of pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth.
Greed, for sure.

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