At Frieze London, Lucia Pizzani presents a series of her largest ceramic works. The vessels are cross-continent hybrid constructions, rusted from English clays and imprinted with South American acacia and mahogany seed pods. They are, in Lucia’s words, “mixed-spirit figurines”.
Lucia Pizzani’s practice meditates on the germination of life: the cocoon, the womb, the vessel. Concerned with the relationship between women’s history and metamorphosis in the natural world, she identifies the oval as a universal form found in the eye, the vagina and the seed. She interprets the oval in its literal sense, as her clay sculptures are impressed with dry vegetation and seeds, and symbolically, the ovoid shape of her work recalls an outer, protective membrane which allows for regeneration and transformation within. The artist presents a series of new ceramic works at Frieze London (open since yesterday up until Sunday 13th October) as a part of Pablo José Ramírez’s curated section, Smoke.
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Since 2013, you have collaborated with El Cercado, a pottery workshop in Isla de Margarita, Venezuela. Could you tell us about this relationship and how it originated how it impacted your practice?
My family lived in Margarita for years, so I spent long periods there. I had researched that community, drawn by their ancient pottery tradition, all led by women from one generation to the next. Oral knowledge is stored through clay from the Cerro de Santa Cruz, a nearby mountain; pieces are fired on bonfires with terracotta tiles and wood. Currently, the workshop is also a school, with the support of NGOs such as Artesano Group and Hacedores de País, and I had the chance to both teach and learn while I was there this summer. The new generation of makers, mostly young men, are led by Juan Jose Bermúdez.
This experience permitted a deeper understanding of the materials and process. The imagery that I have been developing connects with old ways and symbols, for instance, from figurines made by one of the grandmothers and older alfareras.
At Frieze, Cecilia Brunson Projects are showing new ceramic Flora Totems. How did this body of work come to be?
As a way of mirroring my condition as a migrant, the works for Frieze have been done in these 2 countries: Venezuela and the UK, as the clay is made from soil that ties it to the idea of territory, as well as cultural references from both places. I have produced the new totems at Whichford pottery, a workshop that has been running for two generations. It is a beautiful example of the tradition of pottery in this part of the world. In these sculptures, I have imprinted corn as a symbol of the Americas and taparas, a type of squash from my home country. They also have drawings that emulate roots, branches and fruits made with black slip. For these works I think the brushwork is much more important than in previous ones; it felt to me as if I was doing a three-dimensional painting.
Why vessels? What draws you to create these objects which are intended to contain?
Vessels allow space to exist inside and around them. Historically, they were made to contain water, drinks, seeds, and other vegetables. I relate to that and imprint some of these vegetables on the surface of the works. Some works are more of a medium scale, resembling the shape of a seed; the oval for me is an important universal form present in almost all the points of entry to the body. The eyes, the mouth, the vagina also have an ovoid shape. The new Flora Totems have freer shapes; imagination can take you in different directions.
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Can I ask about the name totem — anthropologists use the word to designate an emblem representing an animal, object, or group of people. Do the Flora Totems enact a similar practice?
Yes, it was intentional in tying them to the idea of identity. The emblems were symbols of a family or group, and these works materialise identity as they have been imprinted with prominent symbols such as the corn. At the same time, they live in a non-definitive place. Clay was one of the first materials where humans manifested material culture; if I had to define my identity or sense of belonging at present times, I would have a much harder task at hand. These Totems are receptacles of a layered identity, a more multiple one.
What are the interactions between those objects constructed from English clay and those made with clay local to El Cercado?
There is a particular sculpture made in two halves, one from each place. The head is from terracotta done at El Cercao, and the body is from English black clay. It acts as a bridge of time and space, which for me is almost an amulet or mixed-spirit figurine. The idea was to represent the spirit of plants and using dry vegetation as part of the sculptures, such as acacia and mahogany seed pods.
In 2013, Tate acquired your textile works, consisting of human-scale cocoons. These works are breathtakingly surreal, a haunting remnant of the body they once contained. Could you tell us about these works and the performance from which they stemmed?
These were part of a body of work I used in a video piece and a series of photographs titled Las Cáscaras. This means the shells and is part of an ongoing theme I have been developing of a second skin. Ideas of protection, an outer membrane, regeneration and transformations in natural processes are all part of this theme. What happens inside a cocoon is quite sci-fi; it's like going inside a pouch, melting and becoming. The moment of birth is also quite complex. In another video work, I documented 12 monarch butterflies being born and their first flight, positioned as a clock in a circle. They are born with super-squished wings and struggle to come out. To be trapped or covered by these containers, the textiles, cocoons and the body itself can be a metaphor for a possible libration, for growing and transformation. Particularly for women, the performers inside the works were all women, and my job is very much embedded in an eco-feminist ethic.
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You have a serious academic background, having studied conservation biology — how has this influenced your practice?
I studied visual communications in Venezuela and conservation biology at Columbia University in NY before completing my MA in Fine Arts at Chelsea College in London.
The studies in conservation complemented the work I was doing as part of the environmental movement in Venezuela. We had projects with communities in the Amazon, the Andes and Margarita Island, and participating in them was an even greater learning experience. We dealt with endangered species, scientific investigation and sustainable development through farms and other initiatives. All the knowledge and a lifetime passion to integrate and communicate these themes are essential in my work and practice.
In a time of such environmental uncertainty and fear, how do you feel your practice engages with the implications of climate change?
Being from a country like Venezuela brings with it constant uncertainty and fear. Recent presidential elections and the resulting protests and repression have deepened the political and economic crisis. This teaches you to concentrate at a level where you can actually be an agent for change and think and work towards a different future through advocacy and community projects.
I have been thinking for years about the environmental crisis we face, but after Covid it was a turning point as it was felt globally and is a direct consequence of it. Climate change has been giving proof of a great imbalance, a disruption of natural cycles that took thousands of years to evolve. I talk about that through my work, as in my participation at Planet B: Climate Change and the new sublime curated by Nicolas Bourriaud in Venice in 2022.
Some installations have been done in Botanical Gardens, such as my Seres Vegetales project in Oaxaca, which was developed during the Casa Wabi residency. I’m also currently exhibiting at the Harewood Biennial in Leeds at the walled garden planting the 3 sisters' way (corn, beans and squash) as part of a group of sculptures with live plants, arboreal fragments fallen in the state grounds and ceramic pieces. This ancient way of planting from the Americas is cooperative, benefits the soil, and constitutes a perfectly balanced diet with vitamins, carbohydrates, and protein for humans.
Your recent show at Cecilia Brunson Projects Rites, Seeds and Refuge, which ran from May 30th to August 9th, featured vessels imprinted with corn and eucalyptus seeds. On the walls, collages made using Amate paper, an ancient material used by Mesoamerican civilisations, were displayed. How did the concept of using these materials — so far away from their origin, in a contemporary gallery — come to you?
As I was saying, the idea of a second skin is always present in my work.  when I saw the Amate paper in Mexico, made with the skin of trees, the bark very noticeable in the lines and texture, I fell in love with it. It took me a couple of years to understand and learn how to incorporate it into an artwork, as it is precious and has a fantastic history. It was used by Mesoamerican cultures to create their Codices, and when the Spanish colonisers arrived they banned the production of paper. They continued to produce it regardless, and it is still used today in rituals and for their craft, which are still full of symbols and meaning. I did collages with them about the spirits of plants, like the Ceiba, a sacred tree in Central America. Others were more hybrids with animals and plants, all from the canopy of trees in South America. So, the trees became both the material and the subject.
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Barro Semilla, 2024. Photography by Lucy Dawkins, courtesy of the artist and Cecilia Brunson Projects.
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Cíclope Tabachin, 2024. Photography by Lucy Dawkins, courtesy of the artist and Cecilia Brunson Projects.
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Flora Totem Raíces [Roots], 2024. Courtesy of the artist and Cecilia Brunson Projects.
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Flora Totem Ramales [Branches], 2024. Courtesy of the artist and Cecilia Brunson Projects.