A full-length book would not be enough to uncover all the nuances and details Daredeviil2000 entails. From the vast array of visual and sonic influences BABii draws on the worst batman film, Batman & Robin, and the stellar EP 1 Sec by mumdance and Novelist. With her rich storytelling, the album does not fall short, it will have you as transfixed as an epic narrative-based video game. Transcendental melodies and futuristic industrial sounds punctuate the universe which Daredeviil2000’s rogue gallery inhabits.
When we last spoke to BABii, the multidisciplinary artist had just released her single BRUiiSE and since then her career has steadily been reaching new heights as proven by her latest album Daredeviil2000. She has pushed her conceptual approach even further, as throughout the album, she explores the origins of violence and criminality and how hell relates to the real world.
In her imagined tour of Nevaworld, she introduces us to different villainous criminals that personify different sins with each song relating to one of them. A trash spirit clown named Tito Von Bricabrac, VR motorcycle ghoul named Zippy, drug dealing sugar sloth named Fang and hacker alien snake named User38538 are some of the names wrecking havoc in the futuristic hellscape in which the album takes places in.  As her take on Dante’s inferno, BABii reveals secrets, grime’s influence on her work and personal favourites on the album. Read along as we descend into the world of Daredeviil2000 with the mastermind behind it.
You have just released your third studio album, DareDeviil2000, congratulations! I’m sure it’s quite exciting. How do you feel now that it’s out?
I feel pretty good. I actually can't feel what it feels like yet because I've just been doing too many things. So, I can't really comprehend what's happening.
What was the process like making this record? How long did it take you?
It was really slow, and then it was really fast. I started it and I had this idea of the Dante's Inferno with all the different circles of hell, and it was a really nice little format to make an album. It made it kind of easy because it had all these limitations. But then my dad passed away and I got really bad writer's block. Then I went to the studio with Warpstr in LA because I was playing a show there and he broke my writer's block. It was so good and just really helped me figure it out. But I also got given this opportunity to use this studio where they do residencies in my hometown and I was like, oh, I could do a writing camp there because it just expanded and had all these extra rooms and stuff. So, I set a date at this studio, and I invited all of my producers that I wanted to work with to the studio. Then it all kind of happened in the space of a week, pretty much. I had like 40% of the album done before we went to the studio and then some of the songs were just made entirely in the studio, which is kind of crazy.
Daredevil is also the name of a Marvel comics character, and looking at the album’s cover, I feel like you’re also into comics and video games. Does your album have anything to do with him or that world?
It has nothing to do with the Marvel character. But I guess it kind of aligns with it in a weird sort of way by accident. I am into like video games and like anything with narrative. I don't play a lot of games but I'm one of those people that kind of watches YouTube videos about games rather than actually playing them cause I don't usually have time. So, it does have a lot of influences from narrative, not just in particular video games like movies, especially. I feel like when I make albums, I'm just trying to make a movie. Cause I like movies and things like that more than I like music, which is kind of crazy. I kind of came at it from the perspective of a movie rather than making an album.
What influences did you draw on when making this body of work?
There’s quite a lot. Scooby-Doo and the Batman and Robin, the worst Batman film, but it's my favourite one. There’s like a bunch of like funny little niche influences, just anything with some kind of monstrous characters. There’s a vibe. Lots of very campy types and robot wars. There's also this documentary about this ice hockey team called DB Trashers, which was quite an influence too.
Speaking of superheroes, if you could have any superpower, what would it be and why?
Every time someone asked me this question when I was younger, I would always say teleportation. I think I still would say that one because that would be really useful as a musician. It'd be so easy to tour, it's very practical. Although I do like being on transport and travelling so I don't really know (laughs).
DareDeviil2000 has a lot of allusions to inner and outer demons. What are some of the demons you have come across in your life?
I've got quite a lot of them. I've had quite a colourful upbringing, that’s a nice way of putting it. So, I've I feel like I've come to the other side of a lot of my demons, and I've worked through a lot of things. But throughout my life there has been lots of internal demons that have affected me in different ways. Music has always helped me work through them or just making things in general. My whole family is like really crazy and it's kind of personal to me this album in a funny sort of way because I think people sometimes just demonise people and just think they're just inherently bad and there's definitely a lot of grey area. There are reasons why people do bad things, except the exception of like psychopaths and sociopaths. But people that have their own internal demons and they end up becoming monsters themselves for one reason or another. It's kind of the thing that I was exploring with the album.
Your pop-up for the album launch was amazing. The long entranceway felt like a transition from the real world to the immersive world of DareDeviil2000. It was quite hell-ish with the evidence bags and the murder mystery theme and on brand for you so, how did you develop this launch party?
I had a lot of help, which was really nice. Shout out to Gr1n for helping me so much with the exhibition and everything. It was also one of these kinds of things that happened by accident. My friends, Reality PSD, put on a show in the same space and I played the opening night, and I met the people that run the gallery. They were a fan of my music, and I was like, give me a little moment and I'll think of something to do. Then I was like, I have to do some kind of album launch and I asked them if the gallery is available around the time of my album. They said, yeah and then I thought I've got this narrative, how can I create something that's immersive with the record. It just made sense to have an evidence room because the whole narrative is kind of told through this investigation type thing. I guess it's kind of funny because it kind of seems like there'd be some kind of thing that ties all of the characters together and all these things but it's still kind of quite fragmented. I'm trying to still figure out what the end of all of this is. It's literally a mystery to me too (laughs).
I loved Backrooms at 8:55pm, it reminded me a lot of Grimes and her early work with the sounds you incorporated into it. What is your vision for this song?
That song is kind of dark, that is one of those external demons, actually. During the process of writing this album, there was a couple of circles of hell that I was really struggling with and one of them was heresy. It took me a while to figure out how to actually tie that in and I still had to really explain how that is actually heresy, except through the narrative of the character now. I actually had a stalker. He was like a superfan who was a paranoid schizophrenic and this wasn’t actually that long ago. It was quite scary and really hard to deal with, because I also really empathised with the person that was on the other side of it. He was sending me a hundred messages a day and voice notes and sending me scary videos. It was the most complicated thing to deal with.
That sounds quite scary, did you get a restraining order?
I didn't. It was all going on while I was on my U.S. tour, and it was really messing my head up because the way he was speaking was all this weird, symbolic stuff. That song was me kind of trying to process this really crazy thing that happened. How it all came to an end was basically I was supposed to be in a show in Scotland somewhere, which is close to where this person was located. I was getting more and more worried that they were going to show up to the show and I was having to warn the promoters that I have this stalker, and they need to watch out. Just as I was traveling up to the show, I got a phone call from the police, I reported him to the police because I was so worried that something crazy was going to happen. They told me that he'd been sectioned and that he was really unwell, but he was still managing to send me messages because he still had his phone. I told the police, and they said, oh, we'll get his phone taken away from him. Before they took his phone away, I messaged him with quite a heartfelt message. I was genuinely worried about him and I kind of understand that everything that was going on was really out of his control. I don't know where he's at now, but I hope he's all right. Hopefully he got help in the hospital he was in.
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You have quite a few collaborators on the album including, Iglooghost, Pholo, Samuel Organ and Mun Sing. How do you manage to consider a polyphony of opinions while maintaining sonic coherence?
I'm just like an accidental boss in the studio, I think. I'm not scared about telling people what I think, which really helps. Everyone understands that I'm trying to help them by giving them my opinion and people seem to respect what I have to say, which I'm quite fortunate for. I don't know how that's happened, but I think it's just because it does come from a place of love, more than me just being mean or anything. Before we went to the studio as well, I made this big PDF document with everything, all the influences visually, as well as sonically, and really described what I wanted the album to sound like. But I didn't try and control things too much because it was really interesting letting people interpret this vision that I had in the ways that they also saw it.
Things like the Backrooms song, for instance, that kind of turned into a song that I never would have imagined being on this record but I'm really glad that it exists. I think it gives it a lot more dynamic because originally, I was just thinking it was going to be this really relentless, very beat heavy, kind of noisy, scary record. But there's definitely a lot of moments of calmness in it too, which I was really happy about.
What do you think the importance of a producer’s role is to sharpen or polish the vision of the lead artist?
Just being open to feedback is really important because if they're just like, no, I'm going to do it how I want to do it, then that's never really going to work out. It's just all about collaboration and compromise between two people. It's more of a dialogue rather than me being like, I would like a beat that sounds like this, please. Also just not being scared to experiment, that's also why in the studio. I tried to create this environment where everyone felt comfortable. The experimentation is important.
With remixes being very trendy right now (I’m thinking Charli xcx and the whole Brat project), if you had to remix a song on this album, which one would it be and what artist would you like to enrol?
I’ve actually been thinking about this. I was thinking it'd be really funny to do a remix album, but just use all the same producers and do a pass-to-pass because that's kind of what we're doing in the studio anyways. I kind of low key already have remixes of the songs because there's different versions that were going around in the studio at the time. But if I chose an external person to remix it would be someone who was an influence. It'd be cool because I did some like weightless grime stuff, which was very much influenced by mumdance. He did this project with Novelist and stuff and made this really cool like genre that didn't exist for very long. It'd be cool to get mumdance to remix a song.
We mentioned it earlier, but I’d like to delve more in the cover. It’s quite intricate, can you explain it and the choices you made?
I already had the idea of all these different villains, so I wanted to reflect that. Originally, we were going to try and do all of the 12 villains on the cover, but it was really complicated so we just did the singles. It's all kind of based on a painting, a video game concept art that I really love. It’s of this very innocent looking girl and she's surrounded by all these demons. Obviously, I connect with this painting so much and I just wanted to recreate that in my own way. The adverts kind of happened by accident. I actually can't remember how the advert thing actually happened. I think it was because I was making my website, actually and then I was like, damn, I feel like you use this in the whole design. It kind of became a really big part of the whole visual concept.
What’s your favourite track on the album and why?
I like the least popular song at the moment, which is Theft Act 1968. I looked at it today and I was like, damn, my favourite songs are the least popular ones. I get I think it's two different types of people. People that like really in your face music and then people that are more chill. But yeah, I really like this song, it just feels like a song that I never imagined I would have made as well. It kind of feels like creeping around like it does what it's supposed to. I just really enjoyed making it because I enjoyed envisioning myself as this just weird character that just trespasses and I'm just this weird shadow and nobody ever sees me but I'm in everyone's houses all the time.
So far, J0YR1D3 is the only song from the record with a music video. Should we be on the lookout for more?
I don't know. I was talking to the photographer from the project today and he was saying that he wanted to make a music video for M25 and I was like, you need some money to make a video. So maybe we'll make them other ones for fun. Who knows?
If you weren’t an artist, what do you think you’d be doing right now?
I would be a chef. That's what I used to do before and literally I went to music school and then I took a year out and I got a job in a kitchen. Just pot washing. But I kept working my way up in the kitchen and I ended up being a sous-chef. I was like, wait, hold on, this is all I want to do in my life. I would have just continued working in kitchens because I absolutely loved it.
What genre of music would you like to dip your toes in?
Oh, there's always new genres I want to dip my toes into. I love mixing things together. I think I kind of want to explore different styles of singing maybe and maybe make something more chill. I have a really good solid plan about what I'm going to do next. But it's quite hard to explain. All the songs kind of sound like they're mixed terribly. I'm going for bad mixing next. I guess I was influenced by certain genres for Daredeviil2000. There are grime influences but I also quite like to maybe even make some more baseline again. That really worked for me, and I really love playing those songs. No one's really jumped in the bandwagon in the same way yet so I feel like I can make my mark a little bit on that one.
Lastly, what is on repeat for BABii right now?
I know exactly what it is. The New Sound, the Geordie Greep record. I fucking love it. It's the frontman from Black Midi. It's a solo project and I really like it because he's playing a character the whole time. I love The New Sound. I've listened to it so many times already. I think it's my album of the year.
Do you have any other releases planned for the rest of the year? Anything you'd like to tease?
I haven't, I've got a lot of things I need to finish. But no real solid release plans yet. I’ll just be playing a lot of shows, and I need to make some visual stuff. It's like a search party kind of theme so everyone's kind of got torches in the audience and then the CCTV of the monsters, like on the visuals. I'm going to be playing in the audience the whole time, every time.
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